What Happens To Companies Who Push Junk No One Will Buy: Engineers Cast Wary Eye on Role of Electric Cars

April 27, 2012

As an engineer, call me perplexed. Why would anyone drive a golf cart on the highway? Don’t they know how an accident would come out? What about “f = m * a”  don’t they know what that means?

Our country is big, roads are wide, speeds out of necessity are high. Accidents are brutal at those speeds. Higher mass cars fair better, for their occupants. Liberals and their large Limousines are not really affected. They are of that class, you see, where cars come with professional drivers. Like with guns, which come with professional bodyguards, in their little insolated world. It’s not real.

In my local area a trip to Home Depot would involve about a 50 mile round trip. In need of a 8 hour recharge. But if I had other stores to visit, tough luck. I would be particularly hard on an electric car, I would also run the air conditioner, as this week the temperature will be over 90 for the rest of the week.

So being smart and not wanting to end up in a “flat little car” I take a pass. Not because the electric car doesn’t work, but it simply does not do what I want of my car.

Did you know that GM turned down the Volt for production, saying it was not viable. Yep, they turned it down. Then along comes Obama … gonna buy himself a Union health care company that builds car as a sideline, to fix it. A two for one in his small undeveloped mind.

Now the engineers are noticing that no one wants one either.

Auto-industry marketers are stepping up efforts to tout electric cars and plug-in hybrids to regulators and consumers, but at a gathering of industry technologists here, senior auto-company executives offered a sharply skeptical view of electric cars, predicting they will remain a marginal part of the U.S. market well into the next decade.

In presentations Tuesday and Wednesday at the annual Society of Automotive Engineers World Congress, senior auto-industry executives in charge of technology strategy, research, and regulatory issues delivered the same message: Barring an unforeseen breakthrough that significantly drops the cost of automotive batteries, this is a waste of money, and everybody knows it.

Getting down to basics … At the meeting, Mr. Winegarden presented a chart comparing the amount of energy delivered by a given volume or mass of fuel. According to the article, “On his chart, lithium-ion batteries, used in electric cars such as the Nissan Leaf and GM’s plug-in hybrid Chevrolet Volt, were ranked close to zero compared to gasoline and diesel fuels, which delivered the most energy for the least amount of weight and cost to the consumer. ‘The rumored death of the internal combustion engine is premature,’ Mr. Winegarden said.” I guess Mr. Winegarden hasn’t been paying attention to GM’s spin on what a technological wonder the Volt is.

Other industry executives were also aware of the limitations of the much-hyped Chevy Volt along with other lesser-hyped EVs. Also from the piece, “Robert Bienenfeld, senior manager for environment and energy strategy at Honda Motor Co.’s U.S. arm, said that by 2025, a customer who buys a plug-in hybrid could wait 10 years to recover the added upfront costs, compared with a 2025 car outfitted with a more efficient gasoline engine and transmission. The payback for an all-electric car would be even longer.”

It only requires a little common sense to understand the limitations of cars like the Volt. Consider that the vehicle has a battery power source that weighs about 450 pounds and takes up a good deal of passenger and cargo area. An internal combustion engine is still utilized as a back-up. If you charge the lithium-ion based power source for 10 hours you can move the vehicle the equivalent of what about one gallon of gas can move a conventional vehicle. The good news is that you can save about two dollars a day and make up for the additional cost of the vehicle in about twenty years.

The limitations of the Chevy Volt have not stopped proponents from touting the vehicle as a technological marvel.

I still fail to understand how a car that cost twice as much as a conventionally powered vehicle and only saves about a gallon of gas a day by traveling about 30 or 35 miles on a charge before switching to premium fuel is such a “technological moon shot.” Ever heard of diesels? Probably not. It appears that politics is playing more of a role than herd mentality as supporters continue to attack any critics of the Chevy Volt. The crowd that normally wants the wealthy to pay their fair share now supports subsidies to rich buyers of the Volt and other plug-in vehicles. Low consumer demand, however, belies the media hype for the vehicle.

Look, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist or an honest GM executive (something I was beginning to believe was an oxymoron) to realize that the Chevy Volt in its present form is doing practically nothing to save America from foreign oil dependence. Taxpayers are paying a ridiculous price to help cars like the Volt succeed, if you consider selling a few thousand cars a month a success. Congratulations to Mr. Winegarden for coming clean about the limitations of EVs and the Chevy Volt. Now, if only he can talk some sense into Obama-appointed GM CEO, Dan Akerson.

And as soon as Obama leaves, the industry for this unwanted crap will go with him.


Obama Unicorn Jousting: After Volt Debacle; Obama Calls for More Spending on Car Batteries

March 8, 2012

Does he are already doing this? And why does he think the the government has a better think people are stupid? How many cell phone and other portable device manufactures are doing this? And who believes the Washington bureaucrats have a better idea? This is just a clown act.

Hey Obama regime Washington, did you know the cases and parts in cell phones are MADE FROM OIL???

President Barack Obama is discussing spending more on green energy and on electric car batteries less than a week after the bailed-out General Motors temporarily laid off 1,300 employees and halted the production of the Chevy Volt.

Obama, speaking Tuesday night to the Business Roundtable at the Newseum, and said, “folks are getting killed right now with gas prices,” acknowledging the need for more production of oil and natural gas.President Barack Obama is discussing spending more on green energy and on electric car batteries less than a week after the bailed-out General Motors temporarily laid off 1,300 employees and halted the production of the Chevy Volt.

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Rare American who can afford to buy Chevy Volt vows to buy one

February 29, 2012

On the day of the Michigan Republican primary, President Obama spoke to the United Auto Workers conference in Washington D.C. hailing the success of the auto bailout, reminding them that without government intervention GM and Chrysler would be dead.

Obama said that as president, he was proud to get into a Chevy Volt when he visited GM’s Hamtramck plant in Detroit.

“I got to get inside a brand-new Chevy Volt fresh off the line,” he said, “Secret Service wouldn’t let me drive it, but I liked sitting in it, it was nice, I bet it drives real good.”

“And five years from now, when I’m not president anymore, I will buy one and drive it myself,” he said to the cheering crowd who chanted, “Four more years!”

President Obama criticized his political rivals for suggesting that the auto industry was sold out to the unions.

“Even by the standards of this town that’s a load of you know what,” he said.

Government Motors Chevy Volt is Such A Hot Seller: GE “Forcing” Employees Into Chevy Volts

February 23, 2012

Isn’t this exactly what the Soviets of old did? Make people buy their crap “Travant” rather they wanted one or not?

It’s a bold move to be sure, and it will hopefully prove to be a boon to the Volt’s flagging sales numbers. GM had hopped to sell as many as 60,000 Volts in 2012, before dropping that number to 45,000. Will they even make that number though? Hard to tell, though GE’s business will go a long way towards giving the Volt some sales momentum. Even though phony shuck and jive act, people these days can be talked into anything.


General Motors and General Electric are two companies that have been in the political crosshairs lately. GM stands accused of “crony capitalism,” while GE is under fire for paying no Federal income taxes in 2010. The two companies share more than that though, with GE placing an order for 12,000 Chevy Volts and other hybrid vehicles.

A memo leaked to Green Car Reports lays out GE’s plans for their new fleet of Volts, and as expected, it has some people crying foul.

The memo, sent to employees of GE Healthcare Americas team explains that all sedan, crossover, and minivan purchases in 2012 will be replaced by the Chevy Volt. Only field engineers are excepted from having to drive a company Volt.

GE will offer estimates for installation Level 2 Charging Stations, though all-gas use will be allowed when there is no electric option. Any employees who opt out of the Volt program will not be compensated for their expenses. Those who do choose to drive the Volt will be reimbursed for public charging and home charging costs, in addition to gas uses.


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